Comments on: PAKDA a Russian Stealth bomber http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html Metal Under Tension Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:43:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: loupgarous http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-122060 loupgarous Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:10:29 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-122060 Yeah. And Russian aircraft have SUCH a good performance record against American aircraft, as evidenced by the almost total losses off Iraqi-owned Soviet-built aircraft in head-to-head encounters with American and NATO fighters. As far as the "serious Russian army with 9500 nuk heads and 22,000 tanks," it's entirely possible we could neutralize that capability without recourse to a single nuclear warhead, instead using kinetic-kill weapons delivered by ICBMs or other platforms. You're living in the past, chief. But keep on living there. We actually prefer it. Yeah. And Russian aircraft have SUCH a good performance record against American aircraft, as evidenced by the almost total losses off Iraqi-owned Soviet-built aircraft in head-to-head encounters with American and NATO fighters. As far as the "serious Russian army with 9500 nuk heads and 22,000 tanks," it's entirely possible we could neutralize that capability without recourse to a single nuclear warhead, instead using kinetic-kill weapons delivered by ICBMs or other platforms. You're living in the past, chief. But keep on living there. We actually prefer it.

]]> By: nicolas http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-119030 nicolas Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:55:03 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-119030 you are a brainwashed american .. 1)ww1 allied forces won dissolution of russian empire creation of soviet union 2)ww2 you wouldn't won that war without russia 3)in afghanistan war russians killed 115000 afghan rebels you have around 1200 dead and only 40000 rebels (numbers are not exact) 4)you are a smaller country than russia with bigger population they can kill your dens population more easily than you ... furthermore their sam are 5 years in front of technology than yours ..and their nukes can evade your sam's 5)About the spies you have spies too and you had spies in the development of the s-300 sam ... 6)The tanks you were fighting were 50 years older than yours without era or proper ammunition to fight back .. 7)A tank can't compete with a plane ... 8) Do you know the very good tank merkava iv ??? it was raped by a kornet missile not 1 tank but 4 9)No javelin was put against a modern eastern tank . 10)Ph. J. Rubakho killed 300 nazis in ww2 ,Vasily Grigoryevich Zaytsev killed 225 nazis . hayha was using russian made rifle (heron) 11)Russia is the biggest country in the world of you believe that there are only 800000 strong army you must be stupid .. 12)Us debt is enough to buy USA lol You have a debt that is huge .. Russia has almost no debts and the EU depends on it's gas .. 13)Russian army is not as advanced as yours in some cases and some other russia is more advanced ..But by 2020 ..Russia will be able to hit your ass to the ground .. 14)You proud too proud about your country that to be so developed needed Nazi scientists from germany ..Furthermore you are a bastard nation . The are is no US nation ... There is all country colonize nation .. 15 And just for the record "Americans" are leaving USA for other countries since wall street destroyed you .. you are a brainwashed american ..
1)ww1 allied forces won dissolution of russian empire creation of soviet union
2)ww2 you wouldn't won that war without russia
3)in afghanistan war russians killed 115000 afghan rebels you have around 1200 dead and only 40000 rebels (numbers are not exact)
4)you are a smaller country than russia with bigger population they can kill your dens population more easily than you … furthermore their sam are 5 years in front of technology than yours ..and their nukes can evade your sam's
5)About the spies you have spies too and you had spies in the development of the s-300 sam …
6)The tanks you were fighting were 50 years older than yours without era or proper ammunition to fight back ..
7)A tank can't compete with a plane … 8) Do you know the very good tank merkava iv ??? it was raped by a kornet missile not 1 tank but 4
9)No javelin was put against a modern eastern tank .
10)Ph. J. Rubakho killed 300 nazis in ww2 ,Vasily Grigoryevich Zaytsev killed 225 nazis . hayha was using russian made rifle (heron)
11)Russia is the biggest country in the world of you believe that there are only 800000 strong army you must be stupid ..
12)Us debt is enough to buy USA lol You have a debt that is huge .. Russia has almost no debts and the EU depends on it's gas ..
13)Russian army is not as advanced as yours in some cases and some other russia is more advanced ..But by 2020 ..Russia will be able to hit your ass to the ground ..
14)You proud too proud about your country that to be so developed needed Nazi scientists from germany ..Furthermore you are a bastard nation . The are is no US nation … There is all country colonize nation ..
15 And just for the record "Americans" are leaving USA for other countries since wall street destroyed you ..

]]> By: Nicolas http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-119029 Nicolas Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:28:18 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-119029 it was a propaganda ...From france. it was a propaganda …From france.

]]> By: Truth http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-116583 Truth Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:42:22 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-116583 There are certainly aircraft in the Russian inventory that appear to have similar features to Americana aircraft but so what? where do you think the Western design concepts come from, that's right Germany, I'm neither Russian, American, English Chinese or German but you have to face the facts America hasn't got a clean slate either, just because the truth has slipped from people memories over time. Your fabled B-2 spirit bombers originated in a German military project that produced the Horten 229 fighter/bomber, the German V-2 missile that harassed London eventual became intercontinental ballistic missiles and space shuttles. The idea of swing wings in your f-14, your su-24, your f-111, your mig-23 originated in the German P.1101. Get over yourselves, war and conflict drives the advancement of technology and the easiest way to get even or ahead is copy then improve, all countries are guilty of it, its called espionage. How many of you would know that the first country to put a man in space was Russia but was beaten to the moon by America, how did this happened? America watched, observed and improved yet now Russia is now launching Americans with the Soyuz rockets. How did the Russians develop the Tu-160 same thing they watched, observed and improved. Half the things you squabble about are tedious, the b-1 is designed to penetrate defenses at low altitude, the tu-160 at high altitudes. Where did the developers of the JSF(F-35) get heir info? They did it nicely and sought assistance from the Russian company Yakovlev. The Russians are better at thrust vectoring tech, the Americans are in front in stealth, Europe better at delta wings who cares? It's not going to stay the same, in the future china might be the world power and they might be publicly complaining about Indians making copies of their tech. It doesn't matter. Just enjoy the beautiful designs that come from this race, I can appreciate the the finer details of the F-22 as much as the Su PAK FAs, J-20s, F-35s, Su-47s, MiG-1.44s or YF-23s individual features. They are all unique in some way whether its on the surface or underneath the skin. Stop with the stupid fighting, we are not enemies anymore, Russia and China aren't even technically communist anymore, contrary to popular belief the Cold War ended 20 years ago!!! There are certainly aircraft in the Russian inventory that appear to have similar features to Americana aircraft but so what? where do you think the Western design concepts come from, that's right Germany, I'm neither Russian, American, English Chinese or German but you have to face the facts America hasn't got a clean slate either, just because the truth has slipped from people memories over time. Your fabled B-2 spirit bombers originated in a German military project that produced the Horten 229 fighter/bomber, the German V-2 missile that harassed London eventual became intercontinental ballistic missiles and space shuttles. The idea of swing wings in your f-14, your su-24, your f-111, your mig-23 originated in the German P.1101. Get over yourselves, war and conflict drives the advancement of technology and the easiest way to get even or ahead is copy then improve, all countries are guilty of it, its called espionage. How many of you would know that the first country to put a man in space was Russia but was beaten to the moon by America, how did this happened? America watched, observed and improved yet now Russia is now launching Americans with the Soyuz rockets. How did the Russians develop the Tu-160 same thing they watched, observed and improved. Half the things you squabble about are tedious, the b-1 is designed to penetrate defenses at low altitude, the tu-160 at high altitudes. Where did the developers of the JSF(F-35) get heir info? They did it nicely and sought assistance from the Russian company Yakovlev. The Russians are better at thrust vectoring tech, the Americans are in front in stealth, Europe better at delta wings who cares? It's not going to stay the same, in the future china might be the world power and they might be publicly complaining about Indians making copies of their tech. It doesn't matter. Just enjoy the beautiful designs that come from this race, I can appreciate the the finer details of the F-22 as much as the Su PAK FAs, J-20s, F-35s, Su-47s, MiG-1.44s or YF-23s individual features. They are all unique in some way whether its on the surface or underneath the skin. Stop with the stupid fighting, we are not enemies anymore, Russia and China aren't even technically communist anymore, contrary to popular belief the Cold War ended 20 years ago!!!

]]> By: US'Cyber'Marine http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-114773 US'Cyber'Marine Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:40:21 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-114773 Your a moron. typical Russian! What do you call WW1? WW2? Remember WW1? The war that you lost? remember treaty of Brest-Litovsk? We are ignorant? Then what are you? With this comment i can see how ignorant you actually are.. No experience? What do you call the Iraq war? Afghanistan war? Dont they bring enough experience? Remember when your army got raped in Afghanistan in the 1980's? 15,000 Dead Soviet troops in 8 years. What a shame! Plus, dont forget USA has more nukes than Russia :) Proof: 1) <a href="http://www.defencetalk.com/us-russia-nuclear-arsenal-data-released-34627/" rel="nofollow">http://www.defencetalk.com/us-russia-nuclear-arse...</a> 2) <a href="http://www.defencetalk.com/us-has-nuclear-superiority-over-russia-37919/" rel="nofollow">http://www.defencetalk.com/us-has-nuclear-superio...</a> So my friend, it turns out we have more nukes than you do. We can crush you easily :) And about the Tanks, did you forget what happened to your tanks in the Gulf War? Your tanks couldnt take 1 hit from our Abrams while it took you a minimum of 10 hits to destroy our Abrams. Plus did you forget the A-10 Thunderbolt? AKA "The Raper of Russian tanks" ? Did you forget the FGM-148 Javelin? It scared your tank battalions :) Dont forget there are over 100 active russian spies in USA:) <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20111111.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles...</a> Russia currently depends on espionage, cus your too stupid to create ur own things. Typical! Did you forget Simo Hayha? Haha A Finnish farmer who killed over 505 Russian troops? and badly injured 35 others? Look at your Military.. your falling apart.. you currently only have about 800,000 active troops :).. Read :) <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20111018.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles...</a> Russia is dissolving again :( Even Vlad Putin approved the fact that your armed forces are way behind ours at military power and technology. Go do some serious research :) Russia is gona mate :) you are after all, a Russian :) so i forgave you already. Your a moron. typical Russian!
What do you call WW1? WW2?
Remember WW1? The war that you lost? remember treaty of Brest-Litovsk?
We are ignorant? Then what are you? With this comment i can see how ignorant you actually are..
No experience? What do you call the Iraq war? Afghanistan war? Dont they bring enough experience?
Remember when your army got raped in Afghanistan in the 1980's? 15,000 Dead Soviet troops in 8 years. What a shame!
Plus, dont forget USA has more nukes than Russia :) Proof:
1) http://www.defencetalk.com/us-russia-nuclear-arse…
2) http://www.defencetalk.com/us-has-nuclear-superio…

So my friend, it turns out we have more nukes than you do. We can crush you easily :)

And about the Tanks, did you forget what happened to your tanks in the Gulf War?
Your tanks couldnt take 1 hit from our Abrams while it took you a minimum of 10 hits to destroy our Abrams.
Plus did you forget the A-10 Thunderbolt? AKA "The Raper of Russian tanks" ?
Did you forget the FGM-148 Javelin? It scared your tank battalions :)

Dont forget there are over 100 active russian spies in USA:) http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles…

Russia currently depends on espionage, cus your too stupid to create ur own things.
Typical!

Did you forget Simo Hayha? Haha A Finnish farmer who killed over 505 Russian troops? and badly injured 35 others?

Look at your Military..
your falling apart.. you currently only have about 800,000 active troops :) .. Read :) http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles…

Russia is dissolving again :(

Even Vlad Putin approved the fact that your armed forces are way behind ours at military power and technology.
Go do some serious research :)

Russia is gona mate :)
you are after all, a Russian :) so i forgave you already.

]]> By: James http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-113598 James Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:49:33 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-113598 the picture of the plane that you are talking about is not a B-1, but a Tu-160 of the russian air force the picture of the plane that you are talking about is not a B-1, but a Tu-160 of the russian air force

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-113044 Anonymous Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:25:32 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-113044 But don't forget, it was the germans in WWII that actually took the first step towards stealth with there flying wings. There is a reason why the F-117 and the B-2 were flying wing designs. But don't forget, it was the germans in WWII that actually took the first step towards stealth with there flying wings. There is a reason why the F-117 and the B-2 were flying wing designs.

]]> By: @AbouDjaffar http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-91259 @AbouDjaffar Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:01:58 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-91259 And the Tu-144 was such a success than it never worked (in fact, it evan crashed). It was called Concordski and he flew before the Condorde because it was built like a classic jet and not like a supersonic one. And the Tu-144 was such a success than it never worked (in fact, it evan crashed). It was called Concordski and he flew before the Condorde because it was built like a classic jet and not like a supersonic one.

]]> By: winwin1 http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-90499 winwin1 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:31:05 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-90499 I am an extremely patriotic American and even I find this to be a huge exaggeration. Yes, the designs are similar, but that is because that design is the best at what it does. I agree that yes, China (and Russia on occasion) have used American ideas to build aircraft, but only China has ever made very similar copies (with the exception of the Russian Tu-4). The Russians and Indians are working on the Pak Fa (T50) and the Chinese on the Chengdu J-20. These are not copies of the F-22, no matter how awesome it is xD. The J-20 may use some stealth technology leaked from the B2 project but that is it. Had they come up with the design first, it would appear that we were copying from them. Please stop embarrassing yourself and our proud country. I am an extremely patriotic American and even I find this to be a huge exaggeration. Yes, the designs are similar, but that is because that design is the best at what it does. I agree that yes, China (and Russia on occasion) have used American ideas to build aircraft, but only China has ever made very similar copies (with the exception of the Russian Tu-4). The Russians and Indians are working on the Pak Fa (T50) and the Chinese on the Chengdu J-20. These are not copies of the F-22, no matter how awesome it is xD. The J-20 may use some stealth technology leaked from the B2 project but that is it. Had they come up with the design first, it would appear that we were copying from them. Please stop embarrassing yourself and our proud country.

]]> By: winwin1 http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/07/pakda-a-russian-stealth-bomber.html#comment-90497 winwin1 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:10:12 +0000 http://test.larkins.org/?p=182#comment-90497 only change i have to add is that there has never been a B-2 shot down. one crashed in Guam a few years back but was not shot down. only change i have to add is that there has never been a B-2 shot down. one crashed in Guam a few years back but was not shot down.

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